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karl
Oct 4, 2006 12:12:01 GMT -6

Post by karl on Oct 4, 2006 12:12:01 GMT -6

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I know what you mean, and its called repelling. The magnets. Yeah. That's an interesting idea.

ButI don't think Earthbenders would control magnetism. Firebenders would. Because magnetism is electric energy so since Firebengders control energy...
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Anonymous
Oct 5, 2006 12:49:29 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2006 12:49:29 GMT -6

I didn't say they controlled magnetism. I said they could repel their limbs from the Earth (they control it only for their own). I'm saying they're playing with the attraction of the Earth, but only with their limbs. Or they do control gravity (only for them). I'm sure !
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karl
Oct 5, 2006 12:53:18 GMT -6

Post by karl on Oct 5, 2006 12:53:18 GMT -6

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I wonder if firebenders could create heat blasts from the ground with geothermic energy? That would rock.

Earthbenders might be able to control gravity, but its probably more like making the ground sink a little as you land to reduce pressure on your legs.
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cyberguy
Oct 20, 2006 18:21:19 GMT -6

Post by cyberguy on Oct 20, 2006 18:21:19 GMT -6

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Now, I don't know if any of these have been mentioned yet, but I think they each deserve mention all the same.

To begin, could it be possible for a waterbender to lift a rock? I ask because we have already been shown that vines can be bended by bending the water that the vines had absorbed. Now, for those of you not famiiar with the geology, allow me to explain. Stones, due to their inconsistent desnities and their expansion and contraction properties, are not completely solid. This gives them a certain amount of absorbency, some rocks taking on more water than others, usually during either expansion (requiring the rock to take on more water to fill itself) or contraction (the rock closing in around the water or pushing it out.) If waterbenders can, as impied by "The Swamp", bend anything that is highly water-laden, they would most likely be able to "bend" a water-heavy stone, such as one found in a river or ocean bed.

Furthermore, I would consider, on the new subject of Earthbenders, the various kinds of "Earth" that an Earthbender could bend. To begin, crystals and crystalloids. We have learned from "The King of Omashu" that crystals(or at least crystalline rock candy...) can be bent by an earthbender. From there, one would assume that various other crystals could be bent, resulting in many new earthbending possibilities. From there, we reach the crystalloids. Crystalloids, as thier name suggests, are crsytal-like matters that do not obey all rules of crystals, but obey some. The most common form of this is glass, a superheated form of sand, which we know can be bent. The question is, can glass be bent? This would be due to the fact that there is some debate over the smelting process's effects on earthbending.(In short, because smelted metal can not be bent, some, but not all, beieve that anything smelted can no longer be bent by earthbenders.) My third earthbending point is the blurred line between metal and stone. An example is one of the most interesting (and potentially useful to the Earth Kingdom) of classified minerals, Magnetite. Commonly known as Lodestone, this mineral is one of the only naturally occuring magnets on Earth. We have every reason to beleive that it exists on thier world, as they have poles, which are caused by lodestone deposits near axis tips. This stone, as it has been defined by geologists, is comprised of various different forms of Iron and iron oxides. From here, one might consider it a metal, due to it's low specific heat and it's metallic properties, incuding it's potential for magnetism. It is, however, not found in veins, like other metals, and is formed more like crystals (see above point). The question then becomes, are metalloids metals?

On to firebending then, my only idea here is that of heat radiation. As i've discussed before, firebending is most likely the excitement of molecules to inspire burning. If we are to believe that air, along with metal (as in Iroh's escape from Earth kingdom custody) can be heated radially, then it can be assumed that air could be superheated using heat radiation, though not by means of fire, to create dry or hostile environments.



i'd give you a copper for your thoughts, but i don't have a copper. So I'll just ask you really nicely for your thoughts.
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Anonymous
Nov 2, 2006 17:26:15 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2006 17:26:15 GMT -6

I think all of what you said is possible, especially the Earthbenders part (but I don't think Bryan Konietzko and Michael DiMartino will make a whole search for the Waterbenders Earthbending).

I just wanted to say that after I saw "Lake Laogai", I'm sure Earthbenders do something with gravity because the Dai-Li could walk on the walls, which is supposed to be impossible due to the gravity (and that could be the explanation of what I said about when they are not touching the ground but when they jumped with Earthbending). I think they have a limited control on gravity, and when I say limited, I mean they can only do it for themselves. And I think I'm right. The gravity is a force, like magnetism, and the gravity is made by Earth and guess what Earthbenders control !! I'm sure they do something with gravity !!!!!!
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suyami
Nov 2, 2006 19:22:23 GMT -6

Post by suyami on Nov 2, 2006 19:22:23 GMT -6

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Joy-Joy could be right. I, too, have seen that episode, and it does make sense. I guess if earth benders can control gravity, that’s pretty cool. Can water benders control the temperature of water? Because, if they can make it freeze (making it cold) why can’t they make it boil, or heat it? It seems like they should be able to, if they can freeze it.
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hieu
Nov 2, 2006 21:05:59 GMT -6

Post by hieu on Nov 2, 2006 21:05:59 GMT -6

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okay the whole control gravity thing no i don't think thats right. Ya you had some logic around your idea's but how bout this. Since martial arts is often about Chi and bending is part of the martial arts and is controlled by chi (thoughts to "chi blocking") then that would mean that bending is about control of chi.

The movements of our chi in each style of martial art style representing the bending matches. Hung gar is stable and forward, where as we force our chi into such a form and in a sense can manipulate it to hold us up for small moments refering to your thoughts on gravity.

Water benders are fluid like and Tai chi is about flowing. So in turn they flow their chi to move around water and move it around.

Fire benders are angered and fueled by anger which is very dangerous and uncontrolled. So our chi would be like a whip. not fully in control, but we manage to create results to the needs. Anger is a come and go thing which changes quickly. As does fire comes and goes unless we force it to go on.

Air benders elude me because i dont know much about the martial art behind it nor do i know the capabilities of an airbenders

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suyami
Nov 2, 2006 23:10:05 GMT -6

Post by suyami on Nov 2, 2006 23:10:05 GMT -6

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I'm getting what you're saying, and it makes sense. Bending is about chi, and you're manipulation of it. It makes sense that each bending has different manipulation of the energies of the chi. If you watch the episodes, you notice that the fire benders are almost always angry, the water benders are almost always very calm, and fluid, as Hieu said.
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Anonymous
Nov 3, 2006 5:00:54 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2006 5:00:54 GMT -6

hieu said:
okay the whole control gravity thing no i don't think thats right. Ya you had some logic around your idea's but how bout this. Since martial arts is often about Chi and bending is part of the martial arts and is controlled by chi (thoughts to "chi blocking") then that would mean that bending is about control of chi.


We all know the bending is about control of chi. The waterbenders redirect the flow of chi through the body to heal. The waterbenders are the first users of chi since they can heal. And Ty Lee knows how to stop the flow of chi to stop benders, and Iroh said the stomach was the "sea of chi", the source of energy in the body.

The movements of our chi in each style of martial art style representing the bending matches. Hung gar is stable and forward, where as we force our chi into such a form and in a sense can manipulate it to hold us up for small moments refering to your thoughts on gravity.



The fact that Hung gar uses strong stances is the matter. If it involves stances touching the ground, I don't understand how Earthbenders could stay in the air for a moment. They can because somehow they... do something with gravity, or they use Earth as a magnet for their limbs (I'm not telling they use magnetism, for those who wants to open the debate of magnetism, I'm saying they can use magnetism for their own, or gravity for their own) and that would be the reason why they can stay in the air for a moment after jumping, Earth can repel them or attract them.
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hieu
Nov 3, 2006 15:04:15 GMT -6

Post by hieu on Nov 3, 2006 15:04:15 GMT -6

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^^no no no thats not where i am getting at. It's like they ACT like a magnet. The intentionally try to push earth bend against the ground, but since the earth is so large and won't move they end up just moving themselves. They aren't controlling magnetism in any form, but simply moving themselves as a result of ATTEMPTING to move the rock which actually stands it's ground and causes the earth bender's chi to stop the body from moving instead of the earth.

The Earth Does nothing to them

That's my theory on how bending works
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kwaifirenation
Nov 21, 2006 13:56:17 GMT -6

Post by kwaifirenation on Nov 21, 2006 13:56:17 GMT -6

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i think iv heard of fire nation setting off volcanos.so why not my ideas?
1.there should be a kind fire nation person who has the power of light.
2.katara should be able to make whirlpools.
3>aang should make like tornados.
4.sokka should have the ultaminte power over everything even the past avatars and travel in time and well stuff....(not really for sokka but anyway.
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hieu
Nov 21, 2006 16:49:37 GMT -6

Post by hieu on Nov 21, 2006 16:49:37 GMT -6

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^^

1) uh no that shouldn't work because fire isn't the source of all light. Lightning is a source of light, and though fire benders can create lightning doesn't mean they can control it.

2) i think they already can, but how big is the question

3) he already has create tornadoes look at the episode 'when Aang fought Boomi. Boomi threw a large rock and Aang used a tornado to throw it back

4) interesting lol
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xaolin0091
Nov 22, 2006 13:26:52 GMT -6

Post by xaolin0091 on Nov 22, 2006 13:26:52 GMT -6

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I would imagine that air benders could create a vacuum but that is the only one that seems realistic to me. Avatar is a fictional show so really, the creators of the show could make them do whatever they want to but I have noticed that they keep it realistic. Unless you see it on the show, I wouldn't assume they could do anything else.
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suyami
Nov 25, 2006 10:12:34 GMT -6

Post by suyami on Nov 25, 2006 10:12:34 GMT -6

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Takano? About the whole "the earth does nothing to them"… Well, if one bending type has no effect from their element, how come others don’t? For example, if that is true, how come Zuko was burned? Fire was his element, but still, he was harmed from it… Yeah, burns hurt.
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