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Possible bending abilities

teresa
Aug 10, 2006 6:54:03 GMT -6

Post by teresa on Aug 10, 2006 6:54:03 GMT -6

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I don't think Earthbenders can control Plants. There are no rocls or sand in vines. I mean, how could they possibly control it. It doesn't make sense to me. The reason Waterbenders can because water is inside plants.
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Anonymous
Aug 10, 2006 8:32:52 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 8:32:52 GMT -6

Well, the Earthbenders use the power of the planet (they can bend earth, where the plants live), the plants are born in earth, grow in and with earth and when they die, it's on earth. The Earthbenders can use it. Earthbending isn't focused only on rocks or sand (sand doesn't really looks like rock) but on everything that deals with earth. Maybe Nickelodeon won't add this property but I think it is a simple bending ability. May someone deny this theory, that's impossible !
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teresa
Aug 10, 2006 8:54:08 GMT -6

Post by teresa on Aug 10, 2006 8:54:08 GMT -6

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That's just it. Earthbenders bend the Earth. There could be no plants on this Earth. Besides, Water is on Earth, but Earthbenders still can't bend it. Just because something is on Earth doesn't mean Earthbenders can bend it. The only way they can bend it is if it is Earth, not if it is on Earth. If that was teh case, Earthbenders could bend Peope, buildings, and Tainted Metal.
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Anonymous
Aug 10, 2006 9:39:33 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 9:39:33 GMT -6

You don't understand. Water is on Earth but it's a different element. The plants are Earth. I mean, the water can exist without earth but not plants. The water even exists in air but the plants, the plants won't survive without Earth. If Waterbenders can control plants, that's just because there's water inside. But the Earthbenders can control coal, which is fossilized plants. The coal is Earth. If it is fossilized plants, that means plants are Earth.
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teresa
Aug 10, 2006 14:00:06 GMT -6

Post by teresa on Aug 10, 2006 14:00:06 GMT -6

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Coal doesn't have to be plants. Plants can't live without Water either, but that is not the reason they can bend it. Plants aren't Earth, they are just on Earth. They can control Earth, not plants. Dirt is not living, plants are. They are not the same thing.
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Anonymous
Aug 10, 2006 15:33:14 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2006 15:33:14 GMT -6

OK. So tell me what each state of Earth is and then I won't bother you with that anymore (if you can prove me that's wrong)
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teresa
Aug 11, 2006 6:54:55 GMT -6

Post by teresa on Aug 11, 2006 6:54:55 GMT -6

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I am not so sure what you mean by that, but here is what I think you mean. There is pure rock, dirt, mud, and sand. Lava is somewhat earth, but yeah, it probably needs Firebending too. I just don't think plants can be Earth.
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dosho
Aug 11, 2006 10:05:09 GMT -6

Post by dosho on Aug 11, 2006 10:05:09 GMT -6

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I'm sorry joychi, but I agree with Tirea. Earth bending can't control plants. First, There has only been one case of plant control. That was by a waterbender that was using foggy swamp style waterbendering. Second, in that episode there were no earthbenders. None. Toph was nothing more than a vision.

Besides, eathbending require strong brutal movements to control an equally stubberen element. I would immagine that most earthbenders, if they had any influence on plants, would end up destroying them. Earth is durable, Plants are fragile.
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spoeki
Aug 14, 2006 18:25:03 GMT -6

Post by spoeki on Aug 14, 2006 18:25:03 GMT -6

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I aggree with Tirea too , in avatar , you have to see earth as an element , not as the whole planet , cause then I think they would've called it gaia bending or something like that . With earth they actually mean stone , Tirea has given some examples of stones.So I don't think they can bend plants .
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sorax
Aug 15, 2006 7:08:08 GMT -6

Post by sorax on Aug 15, 2006 7:08:08 GMT -6

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Earth benders should be able to bend steel or any metal and water benders should be able to bend some different types of airs. Explaination: Steel is made out of earth and is just heated to a hot temprature and a bunch of other stuff I don't know but it is made out of earth....

Water benders should be able to bend some air because water is made out of air and when mixed can create water.
(water benders are cool)
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demonzabrak
Aug 16, 2006 20:49:07 GMT -6

Post by demonzabrak on Aug 16, 2006 20:49:07 GMT -6

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Steel is an alloy of iron and various amounts of carbon, as well as other minerals that vary depending on the type of steel being made. Carbon is the primary element of things like plants and creatures. If earth benders could manipulate steel with its non-earth like components, it would lead into debates like the one that just finished a little further above. If they could control all the other non-rock like elements that appear in metal alloys, they could control just about anything that exists. Since we know they can’t do that, that means they can only control rocks in various forms (i.e. dirt, mud, sand) or ores (i.e. iron, other natural metals).
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sorax
Aug 17, 2006 15:30:07 GMT -6

Post by sorax on Aug 17, 2006 15:30:07 GMT -6

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I see your point but the water ebnders should be able to bend air! The show is pure evil in not allowing them to. It would be cool if they could.
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dosho
Aug 19, 2006 0:19:22 GMT -6

Post by dosho on Aug 19, 2006 0:19:22 GMT -6

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No it isn't it is very fair. A powerfull waterbend might be able to fake air bending is a very humid envirnment, like a steam room. With the sandbenders, is seems that every one is able to fake airbending now. Exept for firebender, but I sure they will find a way.
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cyclone
Aug 27, 2006 15:08:23 GMT -6

Post by cyclone on Aug 27, 2006 15:08:23 GMT -6

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i think air benders should be able to fly w/ out gliders (as aang has shown when he dets really man in furry of aang) but except all the time and with out as much effort and be able to go really fast to.
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Anonymous
Aug 28, 2006 12:36:54 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2006 12:36:54 GMT -6

Earthbenders should be able to create and control glass because glass is melted sand, I mean sands superheated or something like that, I don't remember right now, so, like Waterbenders can turn water into ice, and as sand is like water (someone said that before, right ?), that means Earthbenders should be able to create and control glass.
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akailen
Aug 28, 2006 19:18:56 GMT -6

Post by akailen on Aug 28, 2006 19:18:56 GMT -6

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Actually the fact that glass is melted sand is reason for the earth benders NOT to be able to bend it, just like they cannot bend processed metal.

Oh, and Do Sho, here is a Firebender faking airbending for you list: Firebender heats the air and causes air currents similar to what the sun causes on earth. :P

Copper for your thoughts. :)
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Anonymous
Aug 29, 2006 11:45:27 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2006 11:45:27 GMT -6

What are you talking about ? Who said that sand was like metal ? That's completely different. They're both minerals but metal is iron without impurities whereas sand and glass are still minerals (the same mineral). And how could a Firebender make air currents even with hot air ? That theory doesn't make sense...
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dosho
Aug 29, 2006 18:48:31 GMT -6

Post by dosho on Aug 29, 2006 18:48:31 GMT -6

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I don't think so. Akailen make a very good point about the glass. If it was really, really crappy glass (made of micia) earth benders would be able to take it. But, glass is a refined material just like metal. On that note I do see how an earth bender could bend metal if the said metal was very impure and (again crappy).

And for you Akailen, I give you praise. With firebending, I could see how you could mimic some airbending moves, though it would be very hard. More karma for you.

Heres a hard one. Using waterbending, make fake firebending.
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Anonymous
Aug 30, 2006 15:47:46 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2006 15:47:46 GMT -6

That's not fair ! Why did he get a karma point from you ? Even Azula couldn't make fake Airbending. It's impossible in the Avatar World.

You got a hard one, Do Sho. I don't think it's possible to make fake Firebending with Waterbending though they're each other's natural opposite...
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akailen
Aug 30, 2006 20:50:45 GMT -6

Post by akailen on Aug 30, 2006 20:50:45 GMT -6

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Even Azula couldn't make fake Airbending. It's impossible in the Avatar World.


Has Azula, or any fire bender for that matter, even tried to fake air bend? I'm betting not. I'm not saying that it would be easy as pie to do it, just that in theory it is possible and how I think a fire bender would go about it.

Heres a hard one. Using waterbending, make fake firebending.


Hmmm.... Well, this is going out on a limb here, but if a water bender could bend the clouds, he or she MIGHT be able to trigger a lightning strike which is technically part of fire bending. LOL Oh wait! I got a better one: Water bender shuffles feat (preferably stocking footed feat) on shag carpet, walks over to something metal and ZAP! Fake (pathetically weak but fake nonetheless) fire/lightning bending!! LOL ;D

Copper for your thoughts. :)
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