theface
Jul 16, 2006 13:27:03 GMT -6
Post by theface on Jul 16, 2006 13:27:03 GMT -6
ive come to notice, from the latest episodes of the show, that within each style of bending there are smaller sub-styles.
for example: in "The Swamp" there are waterbenders...but theyre called "swampbenders", and they seem to specialize in bending swamp-plants.
and, in last episode, "The Desert", we were introduced to "sandbenders" who are earthbenders that (obviously) specialize in bending the desert sand.
anywho, the question i mean to present is this (for fun): What other "sub-styles" can you think of? im sure theres more.
sry, not done yet....now knowing about these sub-styles, i can finally explain the so-called "bending masters". i think that a bending master is one who can successfully bend each sub-style within his own style of bending...not one who excels in one specific style.
there, now im done.
jong
Jul 18, 2006 13:19:32 GMT -6
Post by jong on Jul 18, 2006 13:19:32 GMT -6
That is a good point Mr. Face but i choose to raise another. As we see in both Swamp and sandbenders they are people who are native the land. So I propose, that they are just people who are more adept at their "sub" style of bending. Like if you look at the swampbenders their style seemed a little more primitive with a lot less fluid motions. The reason is that they were born benders but because of their isolation from the outside world their style developed differently than their "cousins". The same goes for sandbenders, they specialize in bending sand because that is what they're surrounded by.
waterwhip
Jul 19, 2006 13:25:40 GMT -6
Post by waterwhip on Jul 19, 2006 13:25:40 GMT -6
Hm, that is true. I would imagine that electricity or magma would be sub styles of Fire. Water would be plants, I still think that Earth should be able to manipulate plants, since they can bend coal, so that might count. I can't really think of anything for Air. Maybe pressure, or sound like in Naruto?
zeke
Jul 19, 2006 15:45:46 GMT -6
Post by zeke on Jul 19, 2006 15:45:46 GMT -6
Firebenders seem to be able to bend just pure heat, without actually conjuring flame. Iroh has heated water by breating on it, and Zuko has made steam come out his nose. Iroh also used heat without fire to burn an earthbender and escape from captivity.
alianne
Jul 19, 2006 19:41:02 GMT -6
Post by alianne on Jul 19, 2006 19:41:02 GMT -6
*Blinks* Naruto? *Shakes head* Sorry...
I remember Temari, with her giant fan, was able to deflect one of the sound people's attacks with her wind from that fan... Although I don't know any opposing...
Um... I don't really know any for air really, because air doesn't have much sub... Unless maybe like, helium, but most of the time it's air around... So... I don't think air has one. Fire... Hmmm... Well, I don't know about electricity... Honestly I think Fire and Air don't have one, as air is everywhere and fire can just come out their palm out of nowhere. However Earth and water require a source, so therefore, they can be sub-styled.
So I don't think Fire or Air could really have a sub-style.
zeke
Jul 19, 2006 21:32:32 GMT -6
Post by zeke on Jul 19, 2006 21:32:32 GMT -6
I think that theoretically, an Airbender could manipulate all four elements. First the bend air, but then they could bend air around stones, water and flames, and maneuver it, and use it for combat. That may be why the Fire Nation wiped them out first, aside from the fact that the next Avatar was born into them...
alianne
Jul 19, 2006 22:05:54 GMT -6
Post by alianne on Jul 19, 2006 22:05:54 GMT -6
Well, FIre I don't know, probably the hardest, and water, but I don't know...
You may have something there, Snehal... ;D
zeke
Jul 19, 2006 22:18:13 GMT -6
Post by zeke on Jul 19, 2006 22:18:13 GMT -6
Another thing to add to that, fire relies on air to work, and air could blow it out. Plus water is made of many elements of air (though Avatar is not so much a scientific show... lol)
dosho
Jul 23, 2006 10:21:10 GMT -6
Post by dosho on Jul 23, 2006 10:21:10 GMT -6
I pretty sure that I said this before. If it were possible for an airbender to just "blow out" a firebender, Aang would. All that airbending can do is redirect the fire. Why else would Aang go through all of that fancy foot work and evation? Second while water may be in the air, I think that the air needs to be very humid for a waterbender can use it.
kemary
Jul 23, 2006 10:29:11 GMT -6
Post by kemary on Jul 23, 2006 10:29:11 GMT -6
Well, Aang didnt try one thing that I think can blow out the fire: creating vacuums. If there's no air for the fire to burn, it couldnt burn, right? I dont think Aang's done this because the idea never occured to him.
They all waste so much of their bending talents on tried-and-true stupid things... waterbenders ought to be able to do blood, earthbenders ought to be able to bend steel and metal, and airbenders ought to control sound and create vacuums, as well as redirect other elements.
zeke
Jul 23, 2006 13:40:25 GMT -6
Post by zeke on Jul 23, 2006 13:40:25 GMT -6
thats scientifically thinking Kemari, but firebenders make fire without using any sort of fuel to burn, so science isnt a major concern for the show.
jong
Jul 23, 2006 19:11:53 GMT -6
Post by jong on Jul 23, 2006 19:11:53 GMT -6
Hey aren't you guys getting a little off topic. I mean this thread is about the "Sub styles" of bending not what Airbenders should be able to do, it is impossible for Air to have a sub style because air doesn't change depending on where you go its all the same everywhere.
theface
Jul 28, 2006 14:02:27 GMT -6
Post by theface on Jul 28, 2006 14:02:27 GMT -6
"different techniques" vs "sub-styles"
same difference no?
ichigo
Jul 28, 2006 14:13:35 GMT -6
Post by ichigo on Jul 28, 2006 14:13:35 GMT -6
No, what I mean is that i think "sub-styles" distances the techniques from the original discipline too much. A sub style implies it is a different discipline, surely?
theface
Jul 28, 2006 14:21:22 GMT -6
Post by theface on Jul 28, 2006 14:21:22 GMT -6
ah, not quite.
try thinking in terms of genres of music and their sub-genres.
theres rock music, but thats much to broad to describe any one band, so theres sub-genres.
rock 'n roll utilizes the lead guitar and vocals, metal utilizes the deep bass drums and heavy guitar, and so on... they all sound very different, but they are all essentially rock.
i guess the best way to describe what i mean by "sub-styles" is a style of one order of bending that utilizes one or possibly more parts of that order only.
ichigo
Jul 28, 2006 14:33:55 GMT -6
Post by ichigo on Jul 28, 2006 14:33:55 GMT -6
Ah, ok, well I guess I just think differently. I'm a musician myself, and i hate breaking down styles into sub-styles, like hardcore, progressive, alternative etc. I guess i just look at things from a further perspective! =)
jong
Jul 28, 2006 23:13:13 GMT -6
Post by jong on Jul 28, 2006 23:13:13 GMT -6
See Captain Yung that is where I beg to differ. Because, as I explained in my first post, these styles were brought up in different environements.Since music didn't work lets try animals. I mean look at domesticated animals. Take a cat who has lived in a pampered household for his whole life his natural, instinctive ability to hunt will be hampered while an alley cat or wildcat will be completely unhindered. Look at the sandbenders they grew up as earthbenders, but the only thing they had around them to bend was sand. While a "regular" earthbender is more refined and less limited with what he has to work with. I bet 9/10 if you took a sandbender and put him to earthbend in an all rock area, then he would have trouble for not being experienced in it or not knowing that style.
ichigo
Jul 29, 2006 2:13:11 GMT -6
Post by ichigo on Jul 29, 2006 2:13:11 GMT -6
Well, let's just agree to disagree. I still look at it as whole, with sub-styles as certain techniques within each bending order, which can be expanded upon. I understand why some call them sub-styles, but I'm sticking with the different technique idea.
jong
Jul 30, 2006 5:09:52 GMT -6
Post by jong on Jul 30, 2006 5:09:52 GMT -6
To each his own. Technique, style, whatever we all know what we each mean. So............... Yeah.....
lol