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kimiko
Aug 7, 2007 17:36:23 GMT -6

Post by kimiko on Aug 7, 2007 17:36:23 GMT -6

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It actually takes very little time for gas passing over something at high speeds to freeze it. Though, the gas as to be concentrated. Aang certainly seems capable of it in my opinion. On more than one occasion he's pushed someone back with a big gust of wind. If he focused the air properly he could easily and quickly freeze things. However, the bigger the object that is being frozen, the longer it would take. But I think that a hand would freeze fairly quickly and a head too. If the air was aimed at the torso you might make the clothing brittle and settle a nice chill on the chest with one quick shot, but if it was kept up it would eventually make the person freeze.

As the Avatar it would probably be the most easy to freeze someone over. Bend some earth around their limbs and commence the freezing...focusing on the torso so you don't make your earth shackles brittle and break.
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ronin
Aug 7, 2007 19:51:41 GMT -6

Post by ronin on Aug 7, 2007 19:51:41 GMT -6

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Then that presents another question from myself. Where would the avatar get the concentrated gas? Last time I checked, they don't have too much of it (though they did have some in that one episode with the inventor). Then there is the matter of how you carry the gas. But even with these questions, this is a very interesting concept. Course I won't buy it till one of the great science guys comes in and gives me their oppinion but I like the idea thus far.
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kimiko
Aug 7, 2007 20:16:13 GMT -6

Post by kimiko on Aug 7, 2007 20:16:13 GMT -6

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They don't have to hold the gas in a canister for it to be concentrated. The mere fact that Aang can sends gusts of wind at someone proves that. An airbender would only have to, rather than send a gust of wind, send a concentrated shot of wind. The way it's been done in the show, the wind has always been used like a big fan or block. If instead of that an airbender focused the wind into a small, yet powerful fan then it would work. No canister required.
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ronin
Aug 7, 2007 20:26:20 GMT -6

Post by ronin on Aug 7, 2007 20:26:20 GMT -6

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Now your starting to lose me. I thought you said that it needs gas to move over. Now you seem to be saying that it doesn't need gas to move over because you don't need to hold the gas into anything. What your saying now sounds different than what you were saying before. If you were to make a concentrated blast of air over someone, they would not freeze. Feel the cool air? Yes. Otherwise airconditioning wouldn't work. Heck, the only reason why we even feel cool when air blows on us, no matter the temperature of the air, is because that on our skin is moisture, and it evaporates as soon as it comes in contact witht he air, or something like that.
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kimiko
Aug 7, 2007 21:00:49 GMT -6

Post by kimiko on Aug 7, 2007 21:00:49 GMT -6

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Obviously I'm not articulating myself as well as I thought.

1) The air, the Oxygen (which is a gas), must pass over an object.
2) The air must pass quickly over the object
A) This requires that the air be concentrated so that it -will- pass quickly.

The simplest way to achieve this is to use a small shot of air rather than a huge gust of air. Air conditioners work in big gusts. O2 escaping from a gas canister fires in a concentrated stream that, if aimed at something, could easily freeze it.

Did that help?
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yi
Aug 7, 2007 21:59:42 GMT -6

Post by yi on Aug 7, 2007 21:59:42 GMT -6

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Minor problem with your theory. First of all, you have to keep in mind that the air inside the container is under high pressures and normal temperatures, forcing the air to turn into a liquid. Since your going against the natualr order of matter phasing ( Solid to liquid to gas – which is an energy releasing process therefore exothermic which is why steam is so hot)

So if going with the flow of natural phase shifting, you will lose heat, since exothermic processes is preferred (matter doesn’t like storing energy); so as you can tell from the PHASE DIAGRAM for water, at room temperature (293 K) and just below one atmosphere (1 atmosphere equals 33 feet above sea level), you can see that air is in its natural form or vapor.

But if you force air into a can and compress it, you raise the pressure. So along the x-axis, go to 293 Kelvin and slide your finger up the chart and see what happens. It turns to a liquid, Which is what happens to air inside a compressed can. That’s why if you swish it around you can hear something inside. Now, again, making matter go against the phase change you increase the energy, making it endothermic. You are putting energy into the air.

Have you ever felt Liquid nitrogen or touched Dry ice? (I highly advise against it) It is cold. That’s because by forcing matter to go against the phase procession, you make it cold.

Basically what I’m saying is that in order for air to remove heat from your body, it has to be under compression and going against the phase change. Since there is no way air can be compressed in the open environment (open environment is the exact opposite of compression), could remove heat from your body.

The air needs to be cold to remove body heat even then it has to be freezing temperatures before it has any visible effect on the human body. Simply not attainable by an airbender anywhere but the arctic. The factors needed to chill the air to the point in which is can remove body heat is outside the scope of an airbender so as we have seen.

Oh.. and for the whole “Concentrated Stream” thing… Micro seconds after the cold compressed air escapes (turning from liquid to gas) it instantly heats up because its losing energy to air.

Basicly.. scientifically, anywhere short of the arctic caps, Air removing body heat and freezing a person is impossible because the conditions to make the air at a state to cause damage (high pressure and controlled temperature), are unattainable. There is no way the avatar could pressurize the air above your skin equal to 14700 PSI (Psi at 10^3 atm), there is no way that he could manipulate the air to be able to freeze you.

The only way to die from wind freezing you is in the arctic, which the air is cold due to the amount of ice surrounding it. Otherwise, in an area like the Earth Kingdom or in the Fire Nation, the ability to use air to suck heat out of the body is impossible, for the air has to be significantly colder than the human body.
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kimiko
Aug 7, 2007 22:41:49 GMT -6

Post by kimiko on Aug 7, 2007 22:41:49 GMT -6

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My idea sounded better in my head. Thank you for your input. I still say air can be deadly. Maybe cause a stream of air to go down someone's throat so that their lungs fill up until they explode. That would work right? Assuming you could find some way to get the person's mouth to stay open while you do it.
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