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Sand bending = Glass bending?

sanro
Jun 21, 2007 14:34:06 GMT -6

Post by sanro on Jun 21, 2007 14:34:06 GMT -6

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Well we all know an advanced form of earth bending is metal bending since metal is a processed form of earth, but since glass is a processed form of sand does that mean sand benders can bend glass like earth benders can bend metal?

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Post by A Long Display Name Here on Jun 21, 2007 14:46:15 GMT -6

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No, I don't think so, because you still need the element of fire to create glass...
I'm not sure though, that's an interesting question. I think, in terms of this RP site, we'd say no, as to prevent people from overpowering themselves, but in the Show...

... that's a very plausible Idea. However, I think that only someone like Toph would be able to bend it — someone with a special skill to isolate each sand molecule. Does that rambling make sense?
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yoritomo
Jun 21, 2007 14:53:34 GMT -6

Post by yoritomo on Jun 21, 2007 14:53:34 GMT -6

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It made sense to me Katara.

I like the idea of glass bending, because one of sand's many weaknesses is that the sand can be heated to glass. (IE: A firebender attacking a sand bender would win if he could not bend the glass)

I also would like to add somthing for everyone to think about. If sand benders could bend glass, then that would make them far more powerfull as they could go and add shards of glass to a sandstorm they make. Which ill cut much more than just the sand possibly tearing the opponent to shreds if enough glass is introduced to the sand.

Are you talking about me with the 300 character thing? I was wondering cause I thought I had more than three hundred, but if not I will add more if need be ;>_>
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yi
Jun 21, 2007 14:58:23 GMT -6

Post by yi on Jun 21, 2007 14:58:23 GMT -6

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*puts on Spiffy white coat again* ((I love doing that. makes me feel important…))

Please Note that the Character minimum is 300 characters… This is a non RP board, so the rules apply here…

But getting down to the whole Glass bending thing… I will have to say no... no on the site and no in the movie… TO make glass you need tons of heat… and I don’t think a Firebender and a Sandbender are goingto be the best of friends at this point and time.

And bending glass is out of the question scientifically. For Once sand undergoes the formation of glass, it is no longer sand, the chemical structure of the molecules chemically changes, and when an object undergoes a chemical reaction, the product is never the same as the input. Unless it’s a catalyst… but Sand is not a catalyst in the reaction, it is a input that gets chemical altered to another form….

The reason for Toph being able to bend metal is because, like the creators said, An Earthbender cant really smelt down the rock ad mineral completely like a Firebender could.. so Toph can lock into those small particles of Dirt and bend them…

But in my opinion, Glass bending is impossible.
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zabasaz
Jun 26, 2007 16:11:04 GMT -6

Post by zabasaz on Jun 26, 2007 16:11:04 GMT -6

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I think glass would be too stiff to bend. You wouldn't be able to move it around like an earthbender does rock. It just wouldn't work that way. Now, I wouldn't be too alien to the concept of projecting shards of glasses kind of like how waterbenders throw icicles. They ARE earth, right? But, it's not my choice to make so I wouldn't risk trying it. The point is, I don't think earthbenders and firebenders could make glass together and go around bending it. Maybe if you use earthbending to toss sand at someone and the firebender scalded it in midair, you could get some glass shard effect, but I don't know for sure.
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polean
Jul 8, 2007 22:28:11 GMT -6

Post by polean on Jul 8, 2007 22:28:11 GMT -6

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However, Yi, every chemical reaction happens both ways. In other words, the moment there are products of the sand-turned-glass, the product starts reverting to the original state at a slower rate until the rates of sand turning to glass and the rate of glass reverting to sand equal out. Unless a fire from a firebender as skilled as Azula (Meaning the blue fire (as wikipedia said)/lightning) were to come into contact with the sand (which would, chemically speaking, turn the molecules other than glass in the reversion process into atoms, which will not react with the glass as eadily as eachother), an extremely skilled sandbender (Toph/Avatar-state level bender, maybe) would be able to bend the remaining sand particles in the glass.

Just a side note, expect a rather eclectic mix of speculation and science from my responses. I am equally skilled in both :P
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hanabi
Jul 18, 2007 23:53:52 GMT -6

Post by hanabi on Jul 18, 2007 23:53:52 GMT -6

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I think Glassbending is possable, but not in the manner of absalute control/metamophasis of the glass.

For one Glass, no matter how well made still has Sand in it somewhere, more primative early glass more then others. Being able to make glass I would say never, being able to turn the glass back to sand would be possable.

For instance pulling the sand particles in the vase around grinding it back to a sort of sand, still alot of the mass that didn't have sand in it would be lost, but I imagine a Sand Bender of Major Skill could use his power to throw a vase around, but not make or change the shape of the glass.

Glassbending: The art of moving the sand particles inharent in glass, the sandbender can take a glass object, move it, and if they are strong enough even brake the glass object.

Due to the earthbending nature of a Glassbender they are not able to fix what is broken, and some glass is to well refined to hold enough sand to bend.

The ideal glass for a Glassbender, and Sandbender training to bend glass is pottery and earthware glass, fine glass such as Mirror Glass and Totaly Transparant Glass are much to well refined, after all, one grain of sands worth of bendable matirial in a clear vase isn't enough to even move it.
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