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Electro bending

shugo
Jun 25, 2007 18:31:28 GMT -6
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I really don't care that we aren't using this element in the RPG I'm putting it here because its one of the central points of my Fan-Fic

Electrobending 101


Name: Electrobending
Bent Element: Electricity
Description:

How Its done:
Electro Bender's use their body's own electrical impulses to generate and manipulate their own electrical field.

Origin: The first Electrobenders are said to have learned the art by watching thunderstorms and the mass static discharge -otherwise known as lightning- that they create

Fighting Style: Electrobenders fight using the "removing something to add something" style of the Northern Praying Mantis martial art. To be more specific they use Seven Star Praying Mantis Boxing.

What they can do:
Beginners:
*Create electrical fields around their body to guard against other electrical attacks
*charge their hands/feet with electricity to hit the opponent with
*shoot low level electric bolts at their opponent (not lightning it's explained at the bottom)
*charge conductive objects with electricity and throw it at the opponent as a type of electric bomb, beginner 'bombs' keep their charge for roughly 15 seconds
*can send electricity through dirty water (anything but fresh/slurry)
Advanced:
*everything the beginners can
*electric bombs keep charge for 1 minute
*create small weapons out of electricity
*have access to static cling which allows them to stick objects that are extremely to moderately conductive together. Can also stick themselves to extreme to moderately conductive material
*can create a low level static shock wave
*can send electricity across the ground
*can paralyze others with electricity
*can send out mild electrical blasts
*have access to Electrobending's special ability
Masters:
*everything advanced can
*bombs keep charge for 5 minutes
*can create larger weapons out of electricity
*can send electricity through fresh water (slowly. And still no Slurry)
*can send out a moderately powerful Electrical shock wave
*can create extremely powerful Electric blasts (still isn't lightning...go to avatar level)
*can Electroplate themselves to create thin suits of armor
*can do the master level special ability stuff
Avatar:
*everything masters can
*create lightning
*can send electricity through all types of water
*bombs keep charge until needed
*can create utterly powerful electrical shock waves
*can create thick suits of armor through electroplating

Strong Against:[/u] Water/Earth bending
Weak Against:[/u] Water/Earth bending

Special Ability: Magnetism
Why: Ever heard of Electromagnetic?

What they can do:
Beginner (starts at advanced Electrobending):
*can magnetize themselves to stick to metal
*can move hand size chunks of metal
Master (Master level EB):
*can reverse the polarity of their body to levitate themselves for a short period of time (this is very taxing on the mind and body) (period of time is 1 minute)
*Can reverse the polarity of a slab of metal to levitate that for a much longer time (not as taxing but still takes it's toll by the end of the time period) (period of time is 1 hour)
*can move head size chunks of Metal
*can reverse polarity of themselves to stick to metal
*can reverse polarity of small (head size) objects to stick to other things
Avatar:
*can levitate themselves for 30 minutes
*can levitate human size metal
*can reverse polarity of other people to make them 'attracted' to the ground or repelled by ground

If there's anything I'm missing tell me.

And now for some explanations

Beginners run the risk of electrocuting themselves with that level abilities until they hit the advanced level then its the risk of electrocuting themselves and friendlies with that level's abilities (does not count for magnetism) at Master level there is no longer a risk of hitting friendly people and the risk of zapping yourself is next to nothing.....it still happens though. Avatar level benders run no rik of electrocuting anybody but the intended target
And this is not a way around metal bending.....If you know magnetics then you know that you can only move metal, not shape it like Toph can. Well I suppose you could shape it by creating a strong enough magnetic force, but only an avatar in the avatar state could do that.

The explanation as for why this bending is strong and weak against Earth and Water bending is simple.
If a water bender hits an Electrobender who is charging one of their attacks to make it stronger they could short it out and cause it to completely backfire. However if an electrobender attacks first or attacks when the water bender is using ocean water (or while in the ocean) then it works the other way around. The water intensifies the attack (not by a great extent) and shocks the waterbender instead. As for Earthbending I would think it would be obvious. Earth grounds lightning plain and simple, the reason that Electrobending is strong against earth is that if the Earthbender in question doesn't keep the grounding rock rooted in the Earth the rock can carry the charge and be used against the Earthbender.

Again if I've missed anything tell me and I'll put it in if I can. :D

oh and Saami, body heat isn't the same thing as Fire, yet Fire benders create their fire by using their body heat.
So why can't you use Bioelectricity to create 'actual' Electricity.
and do any of you actually read some of these posts? Or just put down scripted answers?
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Last edit by shugo: Jun 26, 2007 10:46:31 GMT -6
yi
Jun 25, 2007 20:20:26 GMT -6
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I’m insulted that you think my posts are “canned”

You have entered my territory now…. (puts on spiffy white coat)

Time to lay some Biology on you...

I asked Saami to include the bioelectricity thing in her edit because I didn’t want to spam the newbie board. To think that bioelectricity is even remotely similar to regular electricity is simply ludicrous! The human body is a complex piece of machinery, and required a different type of power, hence why we can’t simply plug ourselves into the wall when we need energy.

To better understand why you can convert bioelectricity into regular electricity, we must look at what each one is first. Since apparently you and most people here haven’t taken any advance biology classes.. ill dumb it down to where everyone can understand it…

First of all... lets discuss the easy one. Regular Joe Blow Electricity, this is the electricity that we see every day... be it light from a light bulb, the shock we get when we touch a door knob, to lightning bolts in the sky. Electricity, in this case, refers to the movement and flow of electrical charges. Specifically electrons or as many people like to abbreviate (e-).

I know it sounds like I’m getting nowhere, but I do have a point... its hard to oversimplify electricity… wrong field of study for me... but What I wanted you to get out of this, is that while we have never seen or taken a picture of electricity, the current and probably true explanation of electricity is that Electricity and electric potential is the ability for electrons to do work.

Now to get to the things I know; Bioelectricity.

A common misconception of bioelectricity is that people think that it is like regular electricity, if that were true, we could hold a light bulb in our hands and power it up (like Uncle Fester from the Adams Family.) The truth is, that the actual electricity in our bodies is almost exactly opposite of what electricity is. All electrical signals between cells and neurons, the singals that tell our muscles to move and our eyes to blinks, are all made possible by IONS in our body. Most commonly Potassium, Calcium, and sodium Ions. Usually from the breakdown of Stals (NaCl, PCl.. etc..)

To be more specific.. they are POSITIVLY CHARGED IONS. Meaning that they are short an electron and carry an electron hungry positive charge. That means that these guys already lost an electron, and they won’t give up any more without a fight. And these ions play an important role in our body… they maintain the osmotic pressure and equilibrium inside the cells.

I don’t want to go any further into the real roles that ions play in our body.. that would be off topic.. but as to why you can’t use Bioelectricity to create 'actual' Electricity?

The answer is simple… Bioelectricity is all positive Near all reactions inside the body respond to positive ions. There are a few cases where electrons are sued in the body (Electron transport chain to create ATP) but those electrons constantly reduce and oxidize with H+, H2O, random salts, and other enzymatic things. The point is… that electricity is the movement of electrons, and bioelectricity is the movement of ions… There is a BIG difference there… one Is an atom, the other is an subatomic particle.

To make electricity from Atoms is called a fission or fusion reaction given the type of environment… The amount of energy it would take to remove any more electrons from a positively charged ion is more than can physically be obtainable… the atom is at its octet, leaving no room for any type of reaction. The atom doesn’t want to be touched.. so it is near impossible to strip electrons away from it… So.. there is no way a positively charged system could ever give you the needed electrons you would need for electricity… Like I said before.. two completely different types…

Sorry if this seems kind of random.. but it makes sense to me… XD

References:

Chemistry: The molecular Science (Moore et. All)
Principles of Biochemistry (Albert L. Lehninger et. lall)
Human Anatomy and Physiology 6th edition (Elaine N. Marieb et all)


forgive any grammar errors. Word doesn't catch them all
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ailin
Jun 25, 2007 20:22:33 GMT -6
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Okay, I am missing the point of this post. Are you preaching the discipline of electrobending, stating a rule set, or trying to preframe people for your fanfiction? Because I do believe that the Bending Arts board is for talking about the bending arts that are at least based in what has happened in the show.

That said, I'm gonna move on to some other points (and look ma, I actually read the post as opposed to this mythical 'scripted reply'). I'm no scientist. I like science well enough, got along with it in school, but I'm not someone who has any type of expertise in that area (that's more of Yi's arena). But what I do know is how to approach this from a storytelling, mythical way. This is not an attack on your fanfiction, I have never read it and have no idea what it entails, but what I will say is why I don't think electrobending makes sense in the way that Avatar has set up its story.

Let's take a look at the classical elements, which are for the most part just considered as Fire, Air, Water and Earth.

In classical Greek we have the elements of Fire, Air, Water and Earth. Some cosmologists had an idea of a fifth element, that they called 'aether' or 'quintessence.' This was born from the idea that the other four elements could be corrupted as they are all earthbound in some fashion, while the stars above had to come from some sort of heavenly element. Aristotle posed that 'aether' was the quintessence and fifth element for that very reason. There were also the Pythagoreans who thought of 'idea' as the fifth element.

The idea of Fire, Air, Water, Earth and Aether as the five elements is also shown in Hinduism. There's Agni or Tejas representing Fire (recognize Agni? Makes the first half of the fun time known as Agni Kai, Avatar world's fire duel), Vayu or Pavan representing Air (or Wind as it is also known as), Prithvi or Bhumi representing Earth (Bhumi...King Bumi, interesting eh?), Ap or Jala representing Water and Akasha representing Aether.

In Buddhism you have the catudhatu, the four elements, or mahabhuta, the great elements. You guessed it, it's the good ol four I mentioned above. In Buddhism it is all centered around how the elements are the basis of understanding suffering and liberating themselves from such suffering.

In the Maori tradition there's the classic four, with the addition of a neutral element known as flora, and is the only element in that tradition that is not associated with any type of natural disaster and is thought of to be the element of serenity.

Then things get a little different with Chinese Taoist elements. Fire, Water and Earth are presented, but instead of Air we get Metal and Wood. There are two Cycles of Balance, a creating cycle and a destructing cycle. Wood feeds Fire, Fire creates Earth (as in ash), Earth has the basis of Metal, Metal collects Water and Water feeds Wood. When you get into destruction you have, Wood parts Earth, Earth absorbs Water, Water quenches Fire, Fire melts Metal, and Metal slices Wood. Then there's also Yin and Yang. All of these are also recurring themes within the I Ching, an ancient system of cosmology and philosophy.

Speaking of the I Ching, also knowng as the Book of Changes, is where you get something a bit different than the classical elements. I Ching has 8 different trigrams of forms of life. They are Earth, Swamp, Water, Sky, Wind, Thunder, Fire and Mountain. This is the closest I have seen to electricity in any form being mentioned.

And lastly (because I think after this one I've gone over into 'no one is reading' territory), there's Japanese classical elements, that are heavily influenced by Buddhist traditions. There are five elements in this one that are Earth, known as Chi or Tsuchi, Water, known as Sui or Mizu, Fire, known as Ho or Ka or Hi, Wind, known as Kaze or Fu, and Void (which is can also be thought of as Sky or Heaven), known as Ku.

With all of this, you can see how the writer's of Avatar set up the show. It is heavily steeped in different Asian traditions, and even aspects of Hinduism. What is common in all of these forms of classical elements is that none of them consider electricty its own element. Avatar sticks with the classical four elements, leaving out popular fifth elements like sky, heaven, void or aether. Given the amount of technology that the world has, there's no such thing as 'electricity' and the closest you would get is indeed the lightning produced by storms, or the lightning produced by a master firebender. Lightning is the representation of electricity within the Avatar story, and Azula is deadly and precise with it (as we all know!).

Classical elements all have opposition. Fire and Water oppose another while Earth and Air oppose each other. You include "Electricity" and you get an imbalance. In scientific terms, yes, it would be strong and weak against water and earth, but those two have perfect opposites already. The inclusion of this 'element' creates an imbalance, not unlike what firebenders do when they separate the energies around them to channel lightning. Electricity would have to have another element all its own to oppose and there really isn't any.

But, really, my point is that in the classical sense, and what has been presented to us in the Avatar universe, being an electrobender would make little sense thematically and in a style sense. Think about the speech Iroh gave Zuko about each of the elements, and how the peoples of each country embody some of the positive and negative traits found in each element. What would you say about an electrobender that would embody the aspects of its 'element?'

Mechanics-wise, I do believe you're missing an intermediate level of expertise, and that overall the abilities seem overpowered in comparison to what can be done with the other elements. When you jump from Beginner to Advanced you get abilities like, "Bombs that can be kept charged for 5 minutes," "Use static cling to stick to certain objects," "Paralzye others with electricity," and have access to the fabled "Electromagnetism" set of abilities. Really this overall spells out some creative uses for an electokinetic character (like, erm, Electro of Spider-Man fame), but when put up against other Avatar bending disciplines it's overpowered to the extreme. And its special skill set reads an awful lot like a way around someone like Toph regardless of the protests that it is not.

Actually, this reminds me of someone creating a new set of abilities or skill sets for a pen and paper RPG of some kind. Artistically who doesn't like someone who can hurl electricity around and use it in creative ways? It works just fine in a lot of situations and stories. However, given what Avatar and history presents us with, there's no true "electric" element. At most what you'll get is something like how they explain plantbending (Huu manipulating the water in the plants), sandbending instead of earthbending (all based on geography) and in actuality, Azula and Iroh's ability to conjure and redirect lightning. Read as a specific skill set, it is overpowered in my opinion.

I'm sure someone else will come along and talk about electrobending in purely scientific terms. From my literary point of view it doesn't work for me, this post is perhaps misplaced in terms of where it belongs on the board, and that sleight against mods inferring that they only reply with cardboard cutout pasted replies? Uhm, not cool.

There. That's all I've got. As Stan Lee said millions of times, 'nuff said.
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shugo
Jun 26, 2007 10:45:05 GMT -6
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Ok before I teach Yi in one of my hobbies (electricity) I'll tackle his bioelectricity to normal electricity statements first.

First thing though, Fire benders use their own Body Heat to create their fire.... and last time I checked body heat isn't the same thing as fire. Just as you guys are saying that Bioelectricity isn’t the same thing as electricity.

Now, while I haven't taken an advanced Biology class yet, I do know that Electric eels use bioelectricity to generate their own electric field, which they then use to stun and capture their prey. Granted they’ve developed a special organ to help them.

Now, its time for me to teach you in electricity.

Electricity at its simplest is simply the movement of electrons. However there is such a thing as a positive electric charge and there are lightning strikes that carry a positive electric charge. These strikes are also much more powerful then negatively charged lightning and originate from the top of the cloud. I assume that these positively charged strikes are the movement of protons not electrons. They’re also reddish-orange in color.

The point I’m getting at is that electricity is simply the movement of electrons and protons, which are parts of an atom. Now you said that bioelectricity uses Ions right, Ions are just charged atoms ions are NOT subatomic particles. Elaborating on this, an ion is simply an atom, or group of atoms that has gained or lost one or more electrons.

Just because I feel like it, and partially due to the fact that I’m studying for Chemistry next year, I’ll delve into ions a little bit deeper. Ions can be positively OR negatively charged, a positively charged ion is called a cation and has more protons then electrons. An ion with a negative charge is called an anion and has more electrons then protons. Now granted ions are found in the human body yes, but they’re also found in Lithium-ion batteries generating electricity. Negative ions are naturally created by the sun, wind and moving water.

On Earth, Fission and Fusion do NOT create electricity, they create heat, which is used to create steam, which in turn is used to turn a turbine and create electricity. It’s about as effective as heating a fire to create steam, which is also why scientists say that to create a sustainable fusion reaction would require more energy then the reaction could make. It’s because they don’t use the energy of the reaction itself and instead use it to create steam… idiots.
And I never said anything about charges already a their octet, I meant charges that are looking for, or trying to lose an electron/proton. I guess you could say that Electrobenders have their cells developed to a point that they could keep a positive or negative charge stable until the right moment.

@ai. Yes I know what the classical elements are, Æther is also known in some places as spirit…. It’s also misspelled as Ether. The Japanese element void can also be interpreted as Æther. My elemental table includes Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Thunder, Light, Dark, Heart, and Spirit (Æther). I guess you could say that I also have a cycle of Life and Ruin. Granted I actually have this broken down into Terran Elements and Cosmic Elements. For the Terran Elements, Air feeds Fire, which is destroyed by Water, which feeds the Earth, which is destroyed by air (wind erosion). Now Thunder is a binding element, which means that it affects all four. Thunder can give birth to fire, and can destroy the air (the phenomenon of actual thunder –not lightning—which is just the instant heating of the air by Lightning and the cooling which creates a shockwave), and is destroyed by Earth and Water. I’m not going to go into my cosmic elements due to the fact that explaining them is irrelevant to the discussion.

By the way I know who spider-man is, but who's Electro, and who's Stan Lee?
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yi
Jun 26, 2007 15:54:28 GMT -6
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Apparently.. I dint dumb it down enough for you… Let me clarify…

I admitted that electricity and all that crap is not my area… im a premed student and not an engineer. Just to give some knowledge to where im coming form.. I am currently in the top 5% of my class, and have taken far more advance classes then you will take for many years… AP Chem and AP Bio are nothing compared to what I have taken and gotten As in.

We both agreed that electricity is the movement of electrons… that has been established by the both of us. And I have establish that all the electricity in out body is done by Positive and negatively charged ions.

I fail to see how an “electrobender” who I’m assuming bends free floating electrons like what electricity is, could possible control ions in our body. Ask any scientist… an ion and an electron are completely different. Your original comment/question was “…use Bioelectricity to create 'actual' Electricity.”

The answer is again simple… bioelectricity is is ions. And it is hard for ions to create actual electricity inside a living specimen (short of an electric eel). It can be done in a lab of course, Organic chemists do it all the time… but it cant be done inside a human.. the process alone will kill a person for they have to use dangerous chemical (esters, acids, cynanids) to strip away the electrons. There is no biological process that can just simply produce electrons for electricity at the will of someone…

As for your whole “electric eel” thing. Yes, they can produce electricity in their body. Im not denying that.. but try to stick it in a human body, which is more complex and sophisticated than an eel. Our heart and brain are very sensitive to electricity.. so if you have this build up of electricity in our body.. what effect do you think it will have on our heart? The same thing that happens when you try to defibrillate a healthy heart, YOU DAMAGE IT!...

So it is not biological sound or efficient for the human body to produce electricity, which is why we run on ions and not electricity.. as for the whole Lithium Ion battery thing.. keep in mind.. that there is very little amount of actually conductive metal in out body… and ZERO conductive Lithium in out body… what makes Lithium Ion batteries work is that there is a chemical reaction between Lithium cation (not present in the body) and a medium electrolyte salt (LiPF6, LiBF4, or LiClO4) ((also not present in the body), and inside and ether solvent (ether is deadly to humans in liquid form)…

So yes… while it does contain the word ION.. it happens in conditions that are impossible to achieve in the human body, for we don’t not have the proper salts needed for such a reaction. Because the body knows.. that those salts are deadly to have inside you… Lithium perchlorate is extremely dangerous to the human body and cell metabolism and the thyroid gland. Lithium Bromoflouride is also dangerous to the human body.. not to mention that Lithium ions tend to oxidize in many organic situations (short of ether).. that would utterly kill you.. ever hear of metal poisoning..

The human body has developed and uses certain ions that will, under normal circumstances, not effect the body in a negative way.. that’s why our bodies run on Sodium and potassium. They cant damage the body unless its in high amounts…

And the whole thing about the bender’s cells are able to “adjust their levels” is utter biological B.S. There is no species in the world that can do that beside eels… but they are not as complex as humans are. That type of evolution is outside the realm of possibility.. in the show and in real life…

As for the whole fission fusion thing.. sorry… im not an inorganic chemist, or a nuclear technician… I was simply trying to show the kind of energy it takes to remove a subatomic particle from an atom.


POINT BEING: ELECTRICITY IS BAD FOR BODY.. WHY WOULD IT MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS BAD FOR IT? ITS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE IN TERMS OF EVOLUTION!

The point is mute…


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zabasaz
Jun 26, 2007 16:05:23 GMT -6
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Greetings, I realize I'm a little late to deal with this problem but it seems you guys have thoroughly handed the verdict down in my stead. Well done. Let me go ahead and say my two cents regarding this issue. I won't attack the concept of electrobending, but rather your post itself.

Name: Electrobending sounds like a band Bender in Futurama would start. I'm sure a better name could be made if this were accepted. Of course, it can't be.
Bent Element: First of all, you can't "bend" electricity. Electricity is not an existent substance, it's not something you can simply grab and control, or manipulate. Electricity is the product of the movement of electrons between atoms. There is no "bending" in electricity. Maybe ELECTRON bending, but that would open you to a lot more incredulous powers than the mere sensation of electroshock.

How it's done: First of all, before you go around talking electric fields and such, you need to study and understand these things. From what I can see, you have no idea what you're talking about. Also, this is not a good enough description of "how's it's done." If all manuals in the world were that simple, I doubt we'd have gotten far with out technology. When you say how's it's done, you need to literally describe how to do it. The body movements, how it actually happens, the means of learning, etc. Not just "How it's done: You do this. Wee."

Origin: Nothing originates from meager observation. If we could start everything by seeing it happen, rather than applying and practicing it, then we'd be freaking unstoppable geniuses, we humans. We'd be able to look up into the cosmos and learn everything about the universe. This is not possible. I don't care how your ki works or how you role play, it doesn't happen like this. The origin of such a serious form of bending would NEVER be so simple to sum up. And trust me, watching thunderstorms and lightning wouldn't teach you half a percent of how electricity works. There are many fundamental laws evaded by this method.

Fighting Style: Hmm... this sounds familiar. Isn't this how Toph bends? So you're saying that if you move like Toph does with earthbending, you can achieve a totally different result: Electrobending? No. If electric bending had a fighting style, it would involve literally the entire body, very fluidic and conditioned movements, and serious precision when dealing with such a delicate concept - Not a "cool looking" martial art that can "punch." You wouldn't blend strikes of the fist with electricity, as that'd make no sense. Electrobending would be all in the electric attacks, and 0% (maybe a bit more but I doubt it) about your actual melee combat capabilities.

What they can do:
Beginners:
*Okay, first of all, you're treating electricity like its an active substance, like its on the periodic table or made of several things from it. You can make shields with existing objects, but you can't make shields with the EFFECT of a NATURAL REACTION between multiple objects. That's like saying "I make a shield out of speed, or friction, or warmth." It makes no sense. It can't be done.
*This would be impossible. You can't simply have a charge in your body and attack someone with it without doing serious damage to yourself. Also, you'd be unable to maintain this charge, and you wouldn't be able to "create" it on impact and send it into your opponent. It doesn't work that way. You'd inevitably do serious damage to yourself.
*You can't "shoot" electric bolts. Again, they're not a substance. And no, Azula doesn't "shoot" lightning, take a physics class.
*Conductive bombs could happen, as objects can contain a charge, but it seems to lack any finesse. Benders use their element as a weapon, they don't use their element to make objects into weapons. That's not an art or a fighting style. It's a tool.
*Seems plausible, I suppose, to send electricity through dirty water. But it wouldn't be as easy as simply putting your hand in, near, or on water.
Advanced:
*everything the beginners can
*Not going into this.
*small weapons? You mean like an ELECTROSWORD? That would mean exercising total control of electricity, which is impossible for two reasons: One, electricity is not a substance that you'd find on the periodic table or made of things on it. It is an effect of a reaction - like I said before. Also, you said you lacked total control over electricity, thus also making it impossible. Of course, that doesn't matter, because it was IMPOSSIBLE in the FIRST PLACE.
*This is way too much power, if you ask me. Cling to objects? Like an electroninja? I don't think you'd be able to do this, as the movements that would probably be required to create this effect would be impossible to perform whilst clung.
*A static shockwave? So you're controlling electricity again by telling it to attack in a secular manner? You can't control it, you already said and I already explained. So no.
*You can't tell it where to go in the ground. It'd behave like electricity naturally does. Even a bender wouldn't be able to control this: For one, it'd happen too fast for any bender to possible react quick enough, for two it'd be defying the laws of physics to a degree that no other form of bending does, and for three you can't control electricity because it isn't a substance. You'd have to control what's being conducted, not the electricity itself. There are no stuff-benders, and if there were, they wouldn't waste time with electricity.
*Paralysis is obvious. It is an effect caused by electricity, not by the bender. This shouldn't be included.
*Electric blasts? I don't understand. You're saying like combustive bolts of electricity? BEYOND impossible, imho.
*What special ability? Magnetism? That's not an ability, it is an effect of electric currents. That's not within your control. Get out.
Master:
*everything advanced can
*Again, lame.
*Again, super lame.
*I already mentioned this, I won't repeat myself. Although the fact stands that I am reading the same crap over again. Talk about "thoroughly done" [/sarcasm]
* ^^^
* ^^^
*ELECTROPLATE? Holy mother of Satan, this has got to be the stupidest thing I've read so far. So you're saying they can not only CONTROL (not influence) something that doesn't even exist as a substance, but they can CREATE THINGS with it, too? Utter bullcrap. Get out.
*Fair enough.
Avatar:
*everything masters can, and better if its the Avatar.
*creating lightning is supposedly possible, as we see Azula do it. But I get a feeling that Azula is not creating lightning, but rather using ki in a way that is identical to lightning. The way Iroh talks about it is why I think this. If I am wrong, there's nothing I can say. I suppose you can lightning bend. But remember, lightning is NOT A PROJECTILE. You can't throw it, make it, mold it, bend it - It already has a path predetermined, and there's a reason for this. Physics, gogo.
*Possible, I guess. I could be wrong, and I hope I am.
*I won't go into more detail about how foolish these "bombs" are.
*Electric shockwaves would imply control. I think lightning bending should be entirely secluded to lightning bolts and MAYBE the alteration of charge.
*No. Just... no.

Strong Against; Weak Against: THIS IS NOT POKEMON. GTFO.

Special Ability: While magnetism and electricity go hand in hand and exist as a result of eachother, an electrobender would lack control of magnetism.
Why: Die.

What magnet benders can do:
Beginner:
*No, you can't magnetize yourself to stick to metal. If it's possible, which I doubt it is, you'd die from it I bet.
*Ha, so they're metal benders too?
Master:
*Oh, and they can fly. Wow. Electricity lacks this ability, but let us just say we allowed it: What's the point? Levitate to escape? If it's so taxing, you'd be too weak to escape from the work you put in the fight that you need to escape from. If it was use to get INTO a fight, well, you'd be too weak to fight by then due to the 'taxing.' And, you wouldn't use it to escape a fight BEFORE being damaged, as you wouldn't need to: You're overpowered enough, who would you need to flee from? Besides, I bet if you were allowed to role play this, it'd not be taxing at all. You may had just put it there to tide us over, make us more accepting of the concept.
*Metalbendinglol.
*Metalbending.
*You seem to be mixed up about the meaning of "polarity."
* ^^^
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*HA, HOLY CRAP. HALF HOUR LEVITATION? HAHAHAHA.
*Oh God.
*lordy lordy, so you can control people too? People bender? Magnetism needs to be nixed entirely. It's terrible.

Explanations seem pointless, really. The risks you point out are never going to come into play in your role play, and you know it. They're just there to humor us and to get it accepted. I won't type anymore, I'm tired of this MALARKY.

"oh and Saami, body heat isn't the same thing as Fire, yet Fire benders create their fire by using their body heat.
So why can't you use Bioelectricity to create 'actual' Electricity.
and do any of you actually read some of these posts? Or just put down scripted answers?"

Response: Well, body heat is not the same thing as bioelectricity. It doesn't behave the same way. And the way you associated "heat" and "fire" seems to be a problem. Physics class, please.
And obviously I did read these posts, or I wouldn't have addressed each problem individually.
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